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[quote]When I was a young kid I thought black men were English because they spoke only English. I didn't realise that skin colour had a meaning in itself.[/quote] Skin color has nothing to do with the issue. That is a very myopic way to look at it. I have the same skin color as a Nigerian and we would culturally have very little in common. That is a mere physical expression of the difference in culture. But there are different cultures (or perhaps more appropriately subcultures) in th

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[quote]They are being raised in a VERY culturally diverse area. [/quote] You actually contradict you point that we don't need to talk about culture. If we are one America, how you be in a diverse neighborhood? You actually make the point for us. Our diversity in this country does not need to contribute to our division. I am sorry if learning about African-American's contributions to history offend you. But it is a part of American history. It is, at times, a dark chapter in ou

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[quote]The moral to this story; we can acknowledge and even embrace the differences between races without judging them. The child clearly realized the woman was different from her all along and embraced it. Now eventually that child is going to learn American history, the good and the bad, (I hope neither of you is suggesting we teach our kids revisionist history), and hopefully she'll learn the right lesson from it but we're barely a generation out of that dark chapter. It's not ancient hist

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[quote]Because it is racist. Identifying him as a BLACK man is racist. Obama is a "Man" NOT a "Black Man". Identifying him by his race is racist. Dr. King wished that we would reach a day when we would judge someone "not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character" but whenever Obama is identified as a "Black Man" they are doing the exact opposite of what Dr. King wanted.[/quote] I totally disagree. You are racist for seeing a persons ethnicity. You are racist

Reply to Betrayal of Martin Luther King in Politics JoeUser Forums

DG, I think I understand part of where you are coming from but I think you have read a great deal into what has gone on in the past couple of days. This historic event is not historic if a Black man is not realized to be President. I don't recall anyone (other than some of the Black journalists I hear on the radio) refer to him as a Black President. He is not the President of only the Black part of this nation, I agree. But to recognize he is Black does not trash Kings ideals. His ide

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[quote]Yesterday it was uttered over and over again that Obama is a "Black Man" and he is now a "Black President" rather than Obama is a "Man" who happens to be black or that he is "The President of the United States" who happens to be black.[/quote] What is so wrong with saying a Black man is President? Why does that bother you so much? Does it bother you to say a Texan was President (can't think of what you call someone from Illinois)? Does that make you a Texan supremasist?

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[quote]The NPR piece that was cited in an earlier comment did just that, it labeled all those who didn't vote for Obama as racists and to be honest since they were doing that they were equally calling all those who voted for him racists as well because if the only reason to vote against the man was his race than that must have also been the only reason to vote for him.[/quote] You have totally misquoted the NPR piece. I heard the same piece (I think). Nothing like that was said.

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[quote]You totally missed it. This is not about the celebration. I clearly stated that I understand and welcome it. This is about how the media and liberals are holding him up as a BLACK President. And that has to do with the point how? I have not commented on his popularity or actually the man himself (except in passing). You and Stubby are trying to make this a blog on Obama, and it is not, nor will I allow it to be. It is not about Obama, it is about the racist that are tryin

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[quote]The whole point that you can't seem to grasp is this had to happen once and there was going to be massive recognition of it as a historical event. Now that it has happened it's done, if another black president is elected you won't hear a peep about the color of his skin, we will have moved on. That is why this is in no way a dark day for anyone.[/quote] Amen! And please, let's not ignore the fact that he is wildly popular as person. His charisma has nothing to do with h

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[quote]No, and that is the betrayal of King's ideals I was talking about. It is no more significant than the other 43. His election was the validation of King. But sadly, his inauguration is the repudiation of it.[/quote] I don't think you have really read King. This is proof that we have moved beyond the tribulations of the 60s and is to be celebrated. If he were around today, do you think he would not want to celebrate this achievement we have made as a country? The inauguration

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Reply to Betrayal of Martin Luther King in Politics JoeUser Forums

[quote]Isn't every inauguration day historic?[/quote] Sure. The same way that every trip to the moon was historic, but the first was more significant, this historic event is much more significant.

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I understand a part of what you are saying, but you can't realize the dream of King unless realize the signifigance of the day when the position of the American President is held by someone whose identity proves that the dream is reality. Media aside, do you not think this to be a historic day?

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Actually, I believe his spiritual advisor is Joel Hunter. He's gone to him a bit more than three times.

Reply to Obama wins in Democrat JoeUser Forums

[quote]Better re-read my response. You are still wrong. The modern tax system was founded with the 16th amendment. The initial rate was very low (like 1% on anything over $1000 of income - which was a lot in those days). It quickly grew. [/quote] Evidence?

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[quote]"Obama won the election but, more importantly, he is black." [/quote] I don't think anyone has said it quite like that. I think, regardless of who you voted for, it's a huge step in our country. I have mostly McCain supporters for friends and a lot of them teared up at seeing Obama's speech. Not because they liked him, but the milestone his win represents. I am sure on January 21st, they will be right back to disliking him as usual.

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[quote]Your history is bad. The country was not founded 91 years ago. And the rate was higher from the 20s until the early 80s. YOur "3rd" lowest is a great example of spin, but not facts.[/quote] Hey Guy, I know I can count on you for it, but do you have any proof of this?

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[quote]Also Is it our place to strip those who have made it of their hard earned money? I do not feel it is our right to force our morality on others. A gift is given willingly, taking it by force, is theft.[/quote] I think that overstates what Obama was shooting for. And by the way only 44% of people who fit the new tax bracket voted for McCain. [quote]No where can I see "free health care for all" from that line.[/quote] I agree, but at our current rate of progress, h

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[quote]Well said in deed, you can thank the Democrats for the crap we are in today, not that they will admit it. But let me tell you something, our history may be bad, but we all know there are worse ones around the globe. We did not become the most powerful country because we were stupid. And I'll tell you more, we may be donw right now, but don't count us out just yet. We will get out of this one just like we did before and we will be stronger just like we have done before whether Obama or

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[quote]I actually don't think that race was as important a deciding factor as most do.[/quote] I think there were some exit polls that revealed age was more significant than race. I could be wrong, though.

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[quote]Exactly! one such viewing had around 20 or so people asked why they were Obama supporters, not one of them could name a single peice of legislation he created, not one of them could answer any of the questions posed to them except the stock "he stands for change and hope" not oneof them could define what "change and hope meant to them" Most of the people were white BTW>[/quote] Yeah, but if people voted for Obama just because he's black, doesn't that mean McCain got votes fo

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[quote]I think this historical event that will change America for the better regardless of his performance in office. The racial divide in this country has just collapsed and I hope minorities can take away the right lessons from this and realize that they can become productive citizens of their country.[/quote] Funny. A week ago I would have thought this to be crazy. But living in the moment I totally agree

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[quote]Seriously you folks kinda scare me. Your history is bad. Since 1917 the tax rate we have right now is the third lowest of the last 91 years. The other 2 times were first the 1920's(we all know what happened because of that in 1929) and the second was for a few years in the early 90's and guess what we had at the end of those 2-3 years.....a resession. Now we have had these give to the rich policies and they will create jobs and a thriving economy for 5+ years and look at what we

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[quote]Conservatives already "thing" for themselves[/quote] I didn't catch that 'til now. I guess you think for yourself better than I do. [e digicons]:blush:[/e]

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[quote]No making health care affordible is not, But why not work on bringing down the cost of health care? Why Tax the crap out of a few to support your Ideals? I applaude Health care for all, but robbing from the rich to give the poor medical is not the way either. How about getting wages raised? or maybe actually getting the american people Working again?[/quote] I agree, there are a boatload of other factors like skyrocketing malpractice suits and expensive benefit p