Ratings are a JOKE!

I know it's been said by many before, but I'm gonna rant some more.
This rating system is so corrupt. I submitted an Icon(Adobe CS) 1/21/04 an recieved the infamous "6" then sign in today and notice that it's been downgraded to a "4", 5 days later. PLEASE!! What a joke. The system is pathetic here and everyone knows it. Get rid of the "Ratings" and let the members decide on their own whether they like it or not. Until I see a change, I refuse to submit any of my hard work and time to this caos.
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do you want to hear a stupid joke? I bet you do. so here it is

What do you call a deer that has no eyes?


have you guessed it yet?







Do you know?









bet you don't.



its a....





no eye deer.

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i agree pz. but then again, some things are over-rated. i dont mean you in paticular.
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oh, and caos is spelled chaos
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oh, and caos is spelled chaos
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whoops. darned double click
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serously I think if you can't handle getting bad ratings you need to grow up. I agree that 4 is a little low for that icon, but personally I wouldn't give it much higher. I don't like individual icons being posted. Unless those icons are extraordinary and amazing they are just not worth my time. I understand that you probably spent a lot of time with that icon, but consider that another artist has spent the same amount of time for each icon in a set of say fifty. If those icons are just as good as yours and say I give it an 8 or 9, then what should I give a single icon of the same caliber as each icon in the very large set?
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PoulanZ.....I checked your works....and the one in question has only two ratings as yet, so the median can see fluctuation.

There is no indication of vindictiveness with people's ratings of your works....for example one person who rated one of yours a '2' [obviously was unimpressed with that one] also rated two others of yours an '8' which is particularly above average.

All that being said, the Rating system is going to change, and will likely be more immune to large fluctuations such as you experienced.

Currently the members DO decide on their own whether they like it or not.  The only time that won't happen is when it is moderated through the submission process due to policy violation or similar....


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Jafo doesn't sleep


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serously I think if you can't handle getting bad ratings you need to grow up. I agree that 4 is a little low for that icon, but personally I wouldn't give it much higher.


I have a Icon that has a 8.

(knock on wood)
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knock,knock
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no eye deer.


ROFLMAO



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Reply #12 Top
no eye deer.


what do call a deer with no eyes & no legs?











still no eye deer (of course!)




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yeah but it is also a "drag"
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A no-eyed no-legged deer in drag
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Hamburger, mm, Venison Buger?
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wow that's a novice, the rating system will be changed??
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Yes....
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I'm looking at your icon in question "photoshop cs" and I am unimpressed. I rated it a 6, and as my general ratings go I look at things like this.

1. Did the person make it? If so I will almost always give it at least a 6 just out of the reason that it is original work. If the person did not make it and it is ripped work/copy pasted, I start at a 1. After I have the 1 in my mindset I look at details, did the person at least do a good job copy and pasting the thing? Are there jagged lines? Problems with anti aliasing? Though my initial thought is at a 1, the more work put into manipulating an image, the higher I will take it, I've actually given completely ripped work 6's before just because they did it so well.

2. Does the icon work well, (if for dock, or whatever the work is intended for). Icons specifically have many necessities to work. Icons must be easy to identify the size of a dime, or cd. Which means simplicity is often a must. They need to be pleasant on the eyes. And most of all they need to clearly identify what they are for. Which is why just copy pasting stuff like a mobile phone doesn't do diddly. No one knows what kind of phone it is when it's the size of a stamp, nor do most of them care, they want to know it is a phone, not that its a "220zx 640 special edition gaming capable wireless es2000 picture phone" from verizon. Thinking in a way that pictographs work is your best bet to understand that.

3. The final thing I look at is, is the icon of any use? Photoshop icon, hell yeah. The flag of germany...probably not. Most anything can be used, and often people have excuses for it, i.e. a picture of a shoe to launch "run". but just a picture of a shoe doesn't signify run.

The first 2 are very important, the 3rd is more open to interpretive opinions, which is why I never completely base a rate on it.

Though I'm sure you probably care less about all that, you're still worried about photoshop. My biggest influence on the rating of your photoshop is that doesn't have the polished beauty that your kazaa and quicktime icons do. (and i'm not talking "aqua effect")

Other than that, I still believe people should be able to honestly rate however they find necessary, in the land where middle is a starting point, a 2 is no more out of question than an 8. People only bicker about low ratings though, instead of thinking, "oh well maybe there is a reason for it". people always assume they are being screwed over and that their work is perfect with no flaws or room for improvement.

Keep in mind, everything starts out as a 1, and many deserve it in the end. It's not easy to get a good rating, but those that deserve it always seem to. On a side note I've given out plenty of ones and 2's and so forth, I've only given out two "10's" ever. 1 signifies total crap, which I've seen and feel justified giving when I do. 10's declare perfection, and even though I've given 2 10's, I still don't feel they were perfect. If people really consider that a 10 means perfect in every way shape and form, less people would be thinking things deserved them.
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I think it was me, who rated your icon with 2, please don't say that of the rating system.
If the users don't like my icon what else can I do? Cry like a baby? Nope, instead I would recreate the icon from scratch and do a better job. I know is hard because I did that to, right now I’m learning how to do skins foe WindowBlinds, and I want to release a skin soon, but if people don't like that? Should I go to the forum and talk about this rating system? Or talk about the users that rated it bad? No! I would take critics and improve my work. Accept your limitations and make them your stronger points.

Let me ask you something, is more important to you: the rating or that you have acquired some graphics design skills? Are you thinking more in public recognition or in making people happy by creating images that they will use a lot of times?
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Oh well...everybody rates his/her own way. I am glad there is going to be some change...when a work starts as a 6 and gets horizons 1 it is listed as a 3, and after that nobody cares to rate (because only "crap" gets such a rate), or, a whole lot of people do not even see the work cos of the filters. I am curious how the system will be upgraded, and hope it will be an improvement.
My suggestion would be to give constructive criticism if a work is rated low, but almost nobody cares to do that. Hence a low rating on a work and the creator pulls out his/her hairs why and a thread like this pops up.
Reply #25 Top
Thanks for all of your input. Props to you to horiz0n for your rating process.
Travis the Crazy Gorilla, as far as "grow up" that has nothing to do with the issue. I can handle just about anything thrown at me. I am open to input from others and it is ALWAYS encouraged. Thats how we all grow and reach our peak.

I don't really understand the rating process, but what really twangs me in this whole matter is I see someone submit for example: the letter "O" with a bevel and it's rated a 6 and one sits back and thinks, WOW, that didn't take much thought nor time. I'm sure all of you would question that.

Put that in perspective, sit in my chair, then you'll understand what I'm saying.

BTW Travis... the joke was a trip!