As an option, maybe... But, not as a required part of the game play. I've never liked hero's much (even back in Moo2), but as an option, I wouldn't oppose it.

If added give an option to turn it off. Only room for one hero in my games. Me.

New Victory Condition: Track down the Terran hero Alan Bradley and capture/kill him.
Kind of like capture the flag, might add to a new level of gameplay.

I don't think the whole "hero" spin will be effective unless there's a risk that this "hero" will become a cult of personality and wind up creating a splinter empire off of your own. Like the Fundamentalists from the first game if you were really, really bad.

I like talon012754's moral event ideas. They could add more diversity and humor to the game if done right. Maybe someone could throw together a mod?

Please Please read my post On officers it is a bit of a jumbled mess but hey, maybe it has some ideas simular to what ya guys posted, I made the post over 24 hours ago without any replies

https://forums.galciv2.com/?ForumID=247&AID=105193&cmd=myposts

Brad Wardell:

"At the end of the day, we have our own ideas on what makes a fun game and want to pursue that. And I can sympathize with Master of Orion fans who, ten years after MOO 2's release, are still looking for what they see as a "true sequel". But please stop trying to push MOO on us. We don't see being different from MOO as a flaw. "

There is an immersion issue here. One that I think Stardock would be wise to consider, although its likely outside the scope of GalCiv2 now. Items like Heros, random events, space monsters, new and unique tech on each advancement ect. made MOO2 fun because it gave the players empire alot of personality. This makes the game experince memorable everytime even if you play the same strategy/race again and again, each game still becomes its own unique narrative, and you get attatched to those units. Turn based Strategy games are going far to far in the oppoisite direction, one of impersonality and numbers. MOO3 is a perfect example of this. Its was, in a very real sense, like watching mold grow. No matter how well I watered and managed my mold, no matter how vorecifly my mold spread, it was still mold. Conquering the galaxy wasn't heroic. The trick is to have the deep strategic economy and victory conditions, as GalCiv2 has, as well as having the flashy heroic elements that MOO2 had.

Many of your potential customers obviously want both, and this would add to the game.

Star bases roughly fill the same role as heroes. So just give your star bases names like "Admiral Nimitz" and you're ready to go.

Brad Wardell: "At the end of the day, we have our own ideas on what makes a fun game and want to pursue that. And I can sympathize with Master of Orion fans who, ten years after MOO 2's release, are still looking for what they see as a "true sequel". But please stop trying to push MOO on us. We don't see being different from MOO as a flaw. " Another quote from Brad: "Yes, and what I'm saying is that you're going to be disappointed. GalCiv has its own take on what space strategy games should be and it has a legacy and fan base that goes as far back as the original MOO as well."

I don't think anyone is asking for GalCiv to be MoO. I think you are taking those quotes out of context. I think Brad said that to answer the critics who don't like Gal Civ simply because it is not Masters of Orion.

I don't think adding heroes to this game is a bad idea at all. I agree, they should be added as a mod that can be turned off or on according to preference, but I think having NPC hero units that offer various bonuses to planet management or space combat would be a nice touch and add to the immersion factor.

I don't think that the heroes should be so powerful that the mere addition of one can make a fleet unstoppable, but perhaps allow your an edge in defeating a fleet of equal or slightly more power. I also think they should offer limited boost to a planet. Enough to make a difference, but not so much to make a Class 6 world equal to a Class 12. Maybe just a specialty bonus, something equal to a bonus tile either in industry, trade, research or morale. Perhaps very rare leaders could pop up and allow multiple bonuses.

I also like the idea of perhaps making sure your leaders are happy. Players need to keep an eye on planets where they have assigned leaders to make sure the approval rating stays at a decent level or else he may incite a revolt and defect taking his planet with him. If you use your combat leaders too often they get fatigued or war weary and turn on you perhaps defecting to another race and taking their fleet with them.

I don't think anyone here is asking for the Heroes from Masters of Orion 2. We are asking for heroes for Galactic Civilizations 2. Like everything else in Gal Civ, just make it optional as well.

How bout instead of arguing if there should be a GalCiv hero feature or not, lets discuss what the Hero units can and can not do or what type of heroes you will have.

Personally, I would like to see the Empire leader to be a hero unit. That way, I can stick him (my self persona in game) into a ship and have him run around the galaxy kicking butt and still run my empire. But i'd be careful since if he does, I would personally feel the loss. Also, my economy/production/morale would take a hit for losing such a great, wise, insanely handsome Leader.

The immersion factor would be awesome. Who would your leader be and would you want him commanding a ship or be stuck in a planet.

A hero could simply be a module you get to install on a ship with zero space/weight factor with varying qualities pluse to defense attack speed.

For a planet it could be like a governors house that creates its own space that gives a bonus to something.

To use existing game mechanics would make the implementation easier.

Problem with modding them in (or even if Stardock coded them in) is getting the AI to recognize and use them properly.  Without that, heroes become an easy exploit for the human player.