Additional thoughts to OH, OH, Christmas is Pagan The Adventist, JW's and Armstrongite tend to believe that God is some how afraid of the pagans. I'm not of the much of one who tends to believe that God was scared away from December 25th because it was the Saturnalia or the birth day of the Sun. Especially, that when God would refer to Christ as the "Sun of Righteousness" in the book of Malachi and refer to Christ as, "the Light of the Wo
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Hey, Excellent, Dennis. I like the way you broke it down in to the different spirits. Excellent work . I thought your part about Herod being deceitful was very insightful. Good work.
Heather, thanks for posting that for us. It's not quite the same without the music but it is still wonderful. That took some work, I know. You did a great job. See ya, soon. Merry Christmas. Dad and Mom, Eric and Star, too.
Echo, Hi. It's interesting reading your comments. I certainly see the battle raging. Its very human and on another side, divine. As humans we tend to be extra critical of ourselves. I've often said to those who doubt Christianity, that the miss out on the its greatest blessing, forgiveness. I don't know what happened to you, when you feel God disappointed you or didn't answer. It must have been very sad. I love the depth you've contemplated y
Preacherman, in balance, the scripture shows that religious rites can be pleasing to God when they are conducted as a proper expression of one's faith in God. One may truly rest in the peace with God that Christ has gained through His sacrifice for us. There is always the danger that one can rely on his religious rites as a means of appearing righteous but not be inwardly so, but that does not remove anything from the one who humbly and properly uses
oh dear, you melt my heart! I love you very much.
preacherman, please feel free to use as much as you'd like, whether you give the credit to me or not. I'm pleased that you liked the article. I am indeed honored, as Heather said. Thank you to all those who appreciated my article. God richly bless all this Christmas season and peace and good will be to all men.
Sorry, I hope I can pick up where we left off. Anyway, the fundamentalist movement tends to disregard the context and genre in favor of a threatening of ghenna fire. We earthlings are God and are not capable of knowing the individual judgment of God concerning anyone, not even ourselves. Therefore, we should not be so quick to judge others. That being said, the teaching in scripture that is God gives grace to each person and they are ultimately
Hello, Poetmom. Rest, I can handle that. I thought I'd add a couple of thoughts of my own, here. You may or may not like them. I am thankful for our days of rest. If you read Genesis in context of the rest of the bible, this idea of the Genesis rest gets pretty interesting. By the time of Christ, the Jews had figured it out that God really didn't need rest as a man does. The Old Testament says that God is not as a man and does not slumber
Oh, Heck. I forgot to mention, The first Anti-Chrismas guy, Herod, 2000 years ago? He was a government offical. Imagine that, a government offical being Anti-Christ-mas.
Awh Shucks, you sure it isn't Paul Newman?
Hi Draginol. I was very interested in your posts. I found your post very interesting and helpful. It is not far from the problems most of those outside Christianity have. Faith, in itself, is something that is quite the opposite of "proof" . If proof is required or made, then faith would no longer be faith.. Faith of itself is a mystical quality that believes something without any actual tangible proof. That is why it's called faith. <br
Good looks run in the Sabbatismus family. They all get it from my side. I look like Paul Newman, don't you think Heather? Awh shucks, I forgot you said Dick Van Dyke or was it, Rodney Dangerfield. I'm so confused. Anyway, they are cuties. I'm doing back exercises preparing myself for the wrestling of all them at one time, this Christmas. What fun.
You should have seen my daughter at the Arts Maget, (hee, hee), high school. The school for the gifted and talented visual arts, or otherwise, non-conformist liberal teeni-boobers with an identity crisis. Trust me, they had some far out "visual arts" alright. Everyday wear was a visual art demonstration for that group. They had their whole body and brain pierced with everything but a conservative thought. Several of them looked like mo
Very well, said.
On the subject of Church and State, I think the differences between most Christians, as most were Christian at the time of the writing of the Constitution, is that Jefferson's wall of separation was intended to keep protect religion from the state, not the state from religion. What is being applied by those who oppose freedom of expression of religion, particularly the Christian faith, the state is opposing one religion in particular, the Ch
Anti-Christmas in the Christmas Bible Story???? The Biblical account celebrates the day of Christ's birth in Luke 2 and the Gospel of Matthew but, the story of Christ's birth doesn't end there. The Biblical account also reminds us of the slaughter of the innocent infants, (Mt. 2:16-18) , that suffered as a result of Herod's attempt to destroy Christ AT the DAY of His
There is historical proof as well as scriptural proof. A noted advocate of the December 25th date was John Chrysostom (c. 347-407), a humble and caring man, perhaps best known for his writings on the Bible and the Christian faith. He was also an eloquent preacher in the city of Constantinople, where his sermons became a stronger attraction for people than the
Jeremiah the fourth chapter tells us how the earth was plunged back into darkness and being void and without form again after the sin of Adam and Eve. Jer.4: 22 For my people [the Jews to whom he gave the Sabbath] is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowl
The absolute best to you and all yours for the Christmas holidays and the New Year! We Love you all, Mom and Dad
I've forgotten how to use that quote deal on this forum so let me make my own use until you remind me again...grrr. Heather, you quoted Karen Armstrong, " thus Jews, Christians and Muslims were all called 'atheists' by their pagan contemporaries..." True, but in those days "Atheist" didn't mean what it means today. "ATheist" (note the two CAPS "A" and "T" . It actually meant something like "A-Typical" , meaning abnormal or someone who had depar
Patrick: I appreciate your reply , which is often used, that Shepherds could not tend their flocks in the field in December. Actually, Shepherds today and back then still tended their sheep in the fields while it is cold or rainy. They often keep them, or kept them closer to the home, but, in the fields. Cold and rain, does not mean they didn't let their sheep graze. It only means that they probably kept them closer to home, but in the fields, non
Jeremiah the fourth chapter tells us how the earth was plunged back into darkness and being void and without form again after the sin of Adam and Eve. Jer.4: 22 For my people [the Jews to whom he gave the Sabbath] is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowl
Christmas Celebrated in Heaven and Earth! Every year, it seems there is more attempts at censoring the celebration of Christ's birth in public. For the last 150 years Sabbatarians, cults and now the Atheists have been loudly proclaiming, Christ's birthday is never celebrated in Scripture and shouldn't be celebrated at all. You are now going
You are too cute. It's always great to have a bit of fun with ya. What a cutie!