*aggree* but Borders are based on influence not Military power (it should). I belive that They should respect your borders depending on the Military power in your borders and same is for how strong the forces are in THEIR borders...

The only real borders are the atmospheres of the palnets you control. The lines on the map are not borders, but showing who is the dominant cultural influence in the region (planets within your colored areas have a influence ratio less than 1).

No, That both:

A. Sucks

B. Does not fit in with the current (and better) method.

(Current method - Each planet has an influence value and resistance value, Hard to explain but it worked well in GC1, And will work well here.)

Besides, That would mean that say your boarder and the Torians are fighting each other, And you both have boarder planets, A third party could buy influence points from both of you and tip the balance.

In Star Trek etc there where respected "boarders" of Federation etc. This should be implemented here as well. My boarders should be respected by the nieghbouring AI and so should systems being colonized by my side.

I still think some sort of boarders should be implemented me thinks:

There should be 2 boarders one on influence and one on military
Military Boarders are calcualted by Military power in the area (Plus Owned "outposts" of all sorts)
Influence will often be larger. Military borders are Respected as Empire Boundiares and they cannot enter without declaring war or Asking for a (don't kill me!) Open border pact... then they can come in and stuff...makes for a stable empire and protects your important Areas (During intial rush It won't matter because military will be pooled in Colonyships) so lemme sumarize this:

1)Military borders are calcuated by Military power and are treated as "true Borders" and AI cannot invade without War or A open border Pact.
2)influence Borders are calcuated on the current system no change here and is often going to be the largest (Unless you are warlike nation Sorta like The Dregin...) What does everyone else thinK?

If that is true... why would the AI want to build one there?

If that is true... why would the AI want to build one there?

Because the AI sucks right now.

Not every other city. However, I have won a Civ4 game by taking all AI cities that weren't the AI's CAPITAL cities through cultural strength.

In Civ4, you can win Culturally by having 3 legendary cities (only takes building all religious academies in 3 cities, with a couple of wonders). It's the Civ4 equivalent of a Galaxy Culture win in GC. Cultural Victories were easier under Civ3... that was identical to the GC1 cultural victory. Just have the dominant cultural strength in comparison to the other empires for X number of turns. It was the default/back door victory. They tightened that in Civ4 making it something you have to actively work and plan on now. Much more difficult then the a Space Victory, or a the Dominant Land Control (Military Conquest) victory.

Civ4's open borders is a good addttion. I like being able to pick which empire I'm being friendly with (have open borders) and which I'm making going around me (have closed borders). Civ4 does allow certain kinds of units to pass through your borders regardless of border status. So you cannot be a complete pain to the AI by keeping your borders closed. But it does impact relations and trade significantly by keeping your borders closed to another empire.

I think having a small, hard line that only your trusted friends (or active warring enemies) can cross would be a good addition to Galactic Civ. But I think the current cultural influence system is a good thing. As I've said earlier, I think the problem is that too many users are confusing "Cultural Influence" for "Militarily Controlled/Exclusively Claimed Space". Look at the real world. The amount of water a nation is allowed to claim from its shoreline is a much smaller range then the amount of influence it projects from its shores. I would think that is what GalCiv's universe is like. Everything within 1 light year of Earth is militarily controlled by Earth space forces. But Earth's influence would control a much larger region of volume around Earth, even though Earth cannot legally claim that larger volume as its exclusively controlled military space.

Now, again, we don't have to have it in GC2. But it could be useful in making it clear to players that their influence extends beyond their hard borders. Logically speaking, a star-faring empire is going to "militarily own" a volume of space well past the atmosphere of their worlds. They'd have to, for their own security. But that space probably doesn't extend much further out then the Helio-sphere of a world (ie, about 1 or so light years out). Beyond that would be intergalactic shipping lanes and open space, but it would still have influence on that volume out past it's hard border of control.

Yeah but capturing through culture isnt fun, not in my book anyhow. Vast fleets and armies is the way to go!

Much more difficult then the a Space Victory

i Read (i found some files)
About the Apollo program and SS Stuff...They have to do with a space victory (IE:Getting to centari first and then blowing up earth?)

I thought the same thing.Should crossing borders mean war ala CIV4.

/agreed

BTW cant stop playing Civ4

Off topic: Civ4's space victory is the same as Civ3. You have a particular list of ship parts you have to build. As soon as you have built them all, you win. It's not the Civ1/Civ2 matter of designing a ship with a % chance of getting there. It's the Civ3 of 5 casings (hull platings), 3 thrusters, 1cockpit, 1 docking, 1 statis module, 1 engine (power plant). Do that all before any other player has (and they have to have the tech to build the parts, so tech leader usually wins), and win. if someone is ahead of you, you invade their capital and disrupt their ships building for a certain time.