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The Yor having high research and economy doesn't make sense to me

July 18, 2015 2:49:14 PM from Galactic Civilizations III ForumsGalactic Civilizations III Forums

Why do the Yor have high bonuses to economy and research? I guess the idea is that since they are robots they are suppose to be super logical and straight-forward. But the thing is, it doesn't really make much sense to me that a robotic society would have a strong economy and impressive research abilities. If anything, they should be LESS rather than more adapt at generating wealth and researching things. The reason is that robots unlike sentient things are too cold and calculating to be as imaginative and creative as living beings, and since creativity and imagination is extremely useful for creating new industries and research it just seem logical to me to assume that robots would be less able to generate lots of wealth and research than more conventional organic civilizations.

Do you think it makes sense that the Yor get bonuses to economy and research?

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Reply #1 July 18, 2015 3:27:18 PM
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I disagree a robotic society would have fewer options like in color and what not, but most industries are improvements on a lesser product. Like why did the soviet union, or china have an economy. Not to mention the yor would still want more software, and hardware upgrades. Yor would still need fuel, and repairs. Considering most inventions are improvements of current inventions. Now imagine how much quicker instead of emailing if everyone involved instantly knew the problem.

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Reply #2 July 18, 2015 3:34:58 PM
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I can understand the doubts about the economy but not the reaserch. If anything I'd sa they should have an increase in reaserch and production. But, like the above said, they're better at it than meatbags because they think faster. as for the creativity, who said only organics can be creative? 

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Reply #3 July 18, 2015 4:06:45 PM
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Quoting admiralWillyWilber,
reply 1

I disagree a robotic society would have fewer options like in color and what not, but most industries are improvements on a lesser product. Like why did the soviet union, or china have an economy.

The Soviet and old Chinese economy are actually great examples of how a command economy doesn't work. They were terrible and extremely poor. Since the Yor are robots and are willing to work for the collective good I guess their socialism style economy would not suffer from all of the same problems but even then they still have no real reason to actually improve or become better beyond the bare minimum needed.

 

Quoting Around999People,
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I can understand the doubts about the economy but not the reaserch. If anything I'd sa they should have an increase in reaserch and production. But, like the above said, they're better at it than meatbags because they think faster. as for the creativity, who said only organics can be creative? 

 

Thinking faster is not the same as thinking smarter. Think about how many important research advances have been made in real life because of accidents, mistakes or somebody figuring something out simply by looking at a bunch of random or unrelated stuff. A robot can't replicate that kind of thing.

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Reply #4 July 18, 2015 4:06:45 PM
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in gc2 lore the yor are able to simulate creativity by introducing random variables into their research calculations

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Reply #5 July 18, 2015 4:23:20 PM
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They would also learn from history and research what works.

Along with communicating to each other. Last they would remember.

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Reply #6 July 18, 2015 5:14:43 PM
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The Soviet and old Chinese economy are actually great examples of how a command economy doesn't work. 

It's a bit more complicated than that. The main issue with a command economy is the brainpower required on top. They need to see and handle an immense amount of detail to pick the right path, and that was impossible for the Soviets and Chinese in the long run. I would actually argue that the planned economies worked well for industrializing both countries, it was what came after that was the problem. (they industrialized in 10-20 years what England used 100+ years to do with Capitalism) The human and ethical cost is another matter though.

Since the Yor are robots and are willing to work for the collective good I guess their socialism style economy would not suffer from all of the same problems but even then they still have no real reason to actually improve or become better beyond the bare minimum needed.

The Yor have one "ultimate equation", and streamlining to get to the solution the fastest possible is their only goal. Their motivation to improve is probably the best there is. We humans tend to get distracted from the main issues a lot

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Reply #7 July 19, 2015 3:16:11 AM
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replying to reply 3. The only people in the soviet union, or even America for that matter only give minimum effort is because they are discouraged, or lazy. Why would yor not think that giving it their all for the good of the collective not make sense.

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