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Is there a way to disable automatic ship designs?

July 11, 2015 8:58:28 AM from Galactic Civilizations III ForumsGalactic Civilizations III Forums

I'm feeling like this game just overwhelms my screen with a gazillion ship designs everytime I research a new technology.  Is there a setting to stop all these designs from popping up or what is the best way to go about this?

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Reply #1 July 11, 2015 8:14:32 PM
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Mod a custom faction and erase all blueprints in their FactionShipStyleSetDefs.xml (or mod the file completely with the original factions)

Just keep these things: (faction specific obviously)

<ShipClass>YorStartingScout</ShipClass>
<ShipClass>YorStartingSurvey</ShipClass>
<ShipClass>YorStartingColony</ShipClass>
<ShipClass>YorDroneInterceptor</ShipClass>
<ShipClass>YorGuardianFighter</ShipClass>
<ShipClass>YorAssaultFighter</ShipClass>
<ShipClass>AwardYorScout</ShipClass>
<ShipClass>AwardYorCutter</ShipClass>
<ShipClass>AwardYorDefender</ShipClass>
<ShipClass>AwardYorGunboat</ShipClass>
<ShipClass>AwardYorSurvey</ShipClass>
<ShipClass>AwardYorFrigate</ShipClass>
<ShipClass>AwardYorOverlord</ShipClass>
<ShipClass>AwardYorColony</ShipClass>
<ShipClass>AwardYorConstructor</ShipClass>
<ShipClass>AwardYorFreighter</ShipClass>
<ShipClass>AwardYorTransport</ShipClass>

 

It's not easy, but it was great once it worked

 

 

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Reply #2 July 11, 2015 8:30:43 PM
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I'm pretty sure that could mess with the AI's ability to produce default ship designs.

 

I think a safer method is to open ShipClassDefs and for the chosen race, insert or modify the line "isAIonly" from "false" to true.

No?

 

 

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Reply #3 July 11, 2015 8:57:24 PM
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That is why I did it on a custom faction I modded myself and not the original ones. (the AI is not allowed to touch that one ) However your solution is probably friendlier for the AI in the long run if it works. 

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Reply #4 July 11, 2015 9:03:51 PM
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Yeah, my method seems to work well, my mod (Gauntlet's Race Mod) utilizes this method on 9 ship sets. AI still has access to all its crummy default designs, whilst my list is clean.

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Reply #5 July 11, 2015 11:33:40 PM
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I'm feeling like this game just overwhelms my screen with a gazillion ship designs everytime I research a new technology. Is there a setting to stop all these designs from popping up or what is the best way to go about this?

 

I am confused.  If i  obsolete a ship, any ship it stays obsolete any you never see it again in that game even after  I research a new technology.   Yes it is a lot of ships to obsolete but it keep my list V short

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Reply #6 July 11, 2015 11:41:14 PM
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That has not been my experience. Each new relevant tech triggers a "respawn" of the undesired design.

 

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Reply #7 July 11, 2015 11:58:02 PM
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Quoting Gauntlet03,
reply 6

That has not been my experience. Each new relevant tech triggers a "respawn" of the undesired design.

G, V V Strange.   Just went back in and tested it to make sure i was not dreaming.   In designer i select a ship > obsolete it.  Researched next engine, life S, & weapon.   Ship did not "respawn" 

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Reply #8 July 12, 2015 12:38:14 AM
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Is there a setting to stop all these designs from popping up or what is the best way to go about this?

Isn't the easiest way to simply just use the tab "user" and forget the "core" and "all" tabs?

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Reply #9 July 12, 2015 5:52:51 PM
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I'd like to see an option to turn off the auto ship designer.  I never, ever build a game designed ship, but when I go to upgrade a ship in the field, I have to scroll past those annoying designs.  Maybe I'm missing it, but I only see and "ALL" tab when I upgrade.  I'll look harder next time.

I obsolete the designs, but new ones keep popping up.  It's not the same as the previously obsoleted design, but a new one that takes its place.

It's a small thing, but annoying nevertheless.

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Reply #10 July 13, 2015 4:40:55 PM
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...or just mod them to make the default designs work the way you would make them, and save yourself hundreds of hours of busywork in the ship designer.

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Reply #11 July 13, 2015 5:36:01 PM
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Quoting MottiKhan,
reply 9

I obsolete the designs, but new ones keep popping up. It's not the same as the previously obsoleted design, but a new one that takes its place.

 

I am still really confused here, or really dumb and missing what ya'all are saying.  I have played dozens of games.  If i obsolete say the default ai colony ship and research new engines / sensors/ life support, the AI colony ship NEVER comes back.  Same with any other default ship.  Now the first time i research a new hull; e.g. med/lrg/huge;  all the new hulls do show up, but i obsolete them and never see them again.  So do i just have a lucky bug on 2 different machines, or am i misinterpreting "new ones keep popping up"?

 

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Reply #12 July 13, 2015 5:48:36 PM
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Quoting a0152570,
reply 11


Quoting MottiKhan,
reply 9

I obsolete the designs, but new ones keep popping up. It's not the same as the previously obsoleted design, but a new one that takes its place.



 

I am still really confused here, or really dumb and missing what ya'all are saying.  I have played dozens of games.  If i obsolete say the default ai colony ship and research new engines / sensors/ life support, the AI colony ship NEVER comes back.  Same with any other default ship.  Now the first time i research a new hull; e.g. med/lrg/huge;  all the new hulls do show up, but i obsolete them and never see them again.  So do i just have a lucky bug on 2 different machines, or am i misinterpreting "new ones keep popping up"?

 

 

Maybe not a colony ship, but something of that size will infiltrate the upgrade box when a new tech is researched. I can always tell because it's name will be something "cute".  Granted, there aren't many cargo class ships, but there are plenty of small, med and large ones.

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Reply #13 July 13, 2015 9:16:15 PM
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Quoting MottiKhan,
reply 12

Maybe not a colony ship, but something of that size will infiltrate the upgrade box

But i have done on ALL types & classes of ships, cargo, transports, tiny/sml/med/lrg/huge war ships.   Everyone i don't want (which is most) i obsolete and I NEVER see them again, no matter how many tech upgrades i research. 

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Reply #14 July 13, 2015 9:32:18 PM
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Quoting a0152570,
reply 13


Quoting MottiKhan,
reply 12

Maybe not a colony ship, but something of that size will infiltrate the upgrade box



But i have done on ALL types & classes of ships, cargo, transports, tiny/sml/med/lrg/huge war ships.   Everyone i don't want (which is most) i obsolete and I NEVER see them again, no matter how many tech upgrades i research. 

So, they don't come back the next game?

Perhaps it's because I've been playing different races per game.  I'm almost done with all of them, so it won't be long.  Thanks for the heads-up.

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Reply #15 July 13, 2015 11:37:21 PM
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Quoting MottiKhan,
reply 14

So, they don't come back the next game?

OOOOoooH  said the blind men to the deaf person. .  Yes they always come back at the START of the next game.   Is that what you were referring to?  The way i read it was Default ships were repopulating the shipyard list each time a new tech leveled the up ie scout M1 to scout M2.  If i obsolete the M1 i never see the M2 for the rest of that game

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Reply #16 December 20, 2015 12:00:13 AM
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I was actually so frustrated by the clutter and constantly clicking the 'Obsolete' button that I made a mod that disables the default ship designs for all the vanilla races, the AI still use them obviously. http://www.nexusmods.com/galacticcivilizations3/mods/39/?

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