It is not normal, it is the bug everyone is discussing in this thread...he was joking with you...

Just checked, points are not coming from research treaties, i made ai terminate all tech treaties he had and no point drop was observed. I noticed however, that his research point grow at constant rate every turn, he gets +10 every turn, so i guess his research rate "pile up" like gold does instead of dropping to 0 every turn like players research points do?

I believe research point and knowledge points are different, though high amount of research points would certainly cause high amount of knowledge points. Just thinking that the original cause of problem may be invalid research calculation, and not knowledge sharing.

Frogboy, has this been addressed?  Will it be?

Good to see I'm not the only one with this issue.The problem is NOT with advanced units... Namely as while the computer may cheat tech they frequently have trouble having sufficient iron/crystals to produce said units.

It's the material/grain/research/gildar bonuses they get repetitively at the end of the tech trees, and later the damage/defense/accuracy bonuses. It really breaks epic games.

Some additional screens: http://imgur.com/v3vfHGz,tb9NVJz,NUWZna5,UEaa8S0,ejodRTu,pgNI658#0

I find it more than a little sad that there is not more conversation about this. Its odd that I can devote my entire faction to research, have over 15 cities, and still be outpaced in techology by an AI opponent that has had 2 cities all game. +150 research a turn and my faction has what is likely less than 1/10th the technology of even the most pathetic factions.

This is JUST before it started to get ridiculous. Around ten turns later some factions started increasing by 20-50 power in individual seasons. When you have a production of +150 in all cities and an endless supply of Gildar it's little wonder how they can achieve this.

I'm hoping the XML change fixes this... It's truly ridiculous. I've been wracking my brain trying to discern how the CPU brag about techs like Refined Agriculture on by turn ~70-90 with only 2-4 cities and non-optimized research cities.

I certainly hope so, I had already modified the value to zero before even posting.

I've spent the last few days trying to make a massive epic games work and every single time around turn 100 the exponential tech growth of the factions would hit like a hammer. Even if I did play the game all the way through the pacing was hectic. Heaven forbid if I wasted a turn or settled on a tile without an essence for the inspiration spell. Defeats the entire premise of what I was trying to achieve...

If the XML change does work (haven't started a new game yet, burned out from my last game...) my only worry is that I am so used to competing with these exponentially growing factions that the easier difficulties are ruined for me. Considering starting on Insane or Ridiculous for that very reason, or putting a self limitation like 4-5 cities maximum until turn 100 has passed.

No, 10 is correct. If you set it to .1 you might as well be setting it to 0, which is the quick and easy way to deal with it now, turning it off.

It's reassuring that this is (or has already?) been looked into. Thanks for pointing this out to me, I haven't read the 1.20 changes until now.

The suspicion that knowledge trading wasn't reducing is the primary reason I set it to 0 actually. While x10 explains part of the bloated numbers, it doesn't explain the excessive accumulation.

By turn 100 it seems like that AI was researching end-tree techs on a seasonal basis. There is no other way that they could have accumulated the +10% research tech (and others like it!!!) over 20 times by the time of my images.

Very nice! This was my only complaint.