Yes, skidi.... I think that we got it a while back, we know you're lesbian.
Lesbians are awesome 
OH! Have I also mentioned that on said date it's supposed to be about 85* outside, and there is likely to be epic hose fights?
Oh COME ON! 
I want in on that party too! 
No, wait.....I live in Greece so....yeah, not gonna happen. Xer07 you lucky b@stard..... 
Wind energy is now.
Lol! I agree with all of the others there, but wind energy? I don't think its efficient enough. I think it was to power Britain, we'd have to build electricity mills all the way round the coast of Wales, England and Scotland... Not practical.
Well, I just said it as an example. But wind mills can power a small city, or at least a portion of its electricity needs. It doesnt mean it can replace every other energy source, just help us a little in our needs.
i didnt mean that boys always jumping to the sex topic geez
No, not me. Xer07 always does 
Pervert!
They will make this money anyway, because oil is needed for a lot of different stuff, too. Neverthless, the oil companies as well as the car-industry must realize that oil is limited and one day will simply cease to be there. If no alternative systems have been introduced then the world will break down for a time. That said, the hugest unsoved problem currently is that we don't have any real equivalent for creating plastics, which will become very expensive then.
But to come back to your quote, well, there's not much that the oil companies can do about it once *we* the customers demand green energy from the car-industry. Yes, they have alot on money - and they would be foolish if they would invest all of it into stuff they won't sell then. That's not how the market behaves at all - but it responds to customer needs and wishes, paying customers. And that's the crux - once you or me are interested in spending even *more* money into new technology of course the automobile industry will sell, they will make more money then. The oil industry won't like it of course, but then, with all those oil-catastrophies going on and ever-increasing prices they won't get much feedback.
Yeah, I didnt say that oil will last forever, and of course they cant do anything about it. But you need to realise, that no matter what happens the same story will go on.
Example: If a new energy source will be used for cars in the future, like electricity (all cars become electric), then they would cost twice as much as a petrol car, regardless of the production cost. I am sure that if that were to happen, then electricity would be like oil. Prices will rise really fast, and every electric device we buy, our first concern would be its consumption, because we are gonna pay like hell in electric companies.
Do you really think that it is gonna be in our interest? Of course not. No matter what happens, they will find a way to make us be deep in debt, forcing us to take loans from banks, and work our asses off to pay it off.
And they are going to justify everything, with "global warming" (not that it isnt an issue, but they will use it as a means to make us pay more), and high technology costs, etc etc
Also, the oil companies have a big income not only from automobiles, but they get even more from wars. Either by seizing and area rich in fossil fuel, either by providing the army with precious oil (in its subforms, like kerosene), or simply by purchasing any companies in the war area for prices a lot less than they worth.
But yeah, I agree that the companies respond well to market demand, after all, if they didnt, they would be obsolete. If the consumers dont like your product, they wont buy it, and you are gonna be out of bussiness.
Just that its not in our interest as much as you might think. No matter what happens, they win, not us.
Well, see above. The car-industry is interested selling cars, not oil. And vice-versa.
BTW I expect everybody here in the Chatroom has more money than France, Italy or the USA - because nations generally don't have money at all, they have chronical debt.
Yes, but the car companies get a lot of money from the oil companies. Why do you think they are so hesitant to move on to other alternative energy sources to power their cars?
Nations have a lot of money, but they have a lot more DEBT. The more money a nation has, the more debt it has. Because there can never be money without any debt.
Money = debt.
In order for money to come into existence, debt has to be there as well, otherwise they're going bankrupt.
Now, in order for each country to keep its debt as low as possible, and in order to have a stable economy, the government tries to make good management financially, and adjusts taxes and wages as they see fit.
If there is a lot of abuse of power in the government, the country will have a lot of debt, and then everything goes to hell. (kinda like my country, Greece. Almost every politician is corrupt here.)
Naturally, isn't it? Which is also the reason why there is this hype of green-energy here. Citizens don't want to live in a grey city amidst smoke, getting lung-cancer while the last places of green sicken away. For example, if in summer the near-earth ozone gets too high nobody is allowed to run his car in the specific city. That's bothering a lot of people, and one reason for a change. They *do* care, and if more would care - the oil industry wouldn't have a chance.
I didnt say that the government of Germany doesnt care about its own people. I said that they ONLY care about its own people and nobody else.
German politicians must be the smartest politicians on earth atm. They are playing a very smart game, as usual. Also, they are on top in the stock market, and this recipe is pure WIN.
It's basically the EU, and other nations.
You are very right, these oil companies are capitalists of the worst kind. A real reson for us all to get independant of them, which is easily said but not done; esp. as they stretch their arms into governments and other parts of industries very well. There can be no doubt they're fighting for their interests by all means.
And that was my whole point 
That's basically the problem. There's not enough wind, there's not enough place (if you subtract private property), not enough sun, or big rivers (where no shipping is). Basically Africa has all these requirements - but unlike us, they haven't the demand nor infrastructure for all these possibilities.
Well, I'm no expert on the matter, but I know that if they really wanted to find a way to solve this problem, at least in the technology part of it, they would find a way. Maybe a combined solution, that uses tidal power, wave power, wind power and solar power, all wherever its possible and optimal.
Well, given your electric car idea would be here right now, I suspect everbody will buy them at once. Thus, there will be lots of money to gain to those parts of the auto-industry who adapt quickly. However, as it is now, it's a pipe-dream. They don't run that long (because of the lack of a battery that is both forcefull in power and light in weight), they are NOT safe or fast (same reasons here) and of course they break down just like any car.
Yeah....well that was just an example, and like I said, theoretically speaking. My point was that everyone would buy that oh-so-perfect car, but then the car company that produced this car would go bankrupt in less than 10 years. So yeah....even if they could produce an excellent product, they wont, because the point is that you need to buy another, newer version of it within a few years time.
And thats not just how the car companies work, thats how every company that produces anything work. If an awesome cell phone was produced that had everything you needed, and it lasted for many years, why would you buy something else? You already have a top of the line product. But by producing a slightly better product every few months, and keep going like that, they always have a high income, and profit a lot with every new model they produce.
This not only discourages progress technology-wise, but also spends a lot of resources for nothing. Everything, in order to be produced comes from a factory somewhere, therefore it requires electricity, maybe plastic, steel, other metals, etc etc.
This disgusting WASTE of resources is what make us spend all these resources that could be used to produce something top of the line, and NOT charge 20x times its real cost to see it to consumers. Because you can be assured that everything you buy, you pay at least 10-20 times its real worth in money.
But then again, money doenst worth anything, because it doesnt represent real value, not resources, not gold or silver, absolutely nothing.
A dollar, or a 100$ or a 10$, doesnt matter, its all a note from the bank (banknote), that they owe you that certain amount of money. Money stopped having any real value ~50 years ago, if I am not mistaken. Up until then, 1 US dollar was worth its price in silver, but later on they probably decided they didnt need to use silver any more, since there must have been scarcity or something, and just went on and made money just be a legal tender note for all transactions, with the citizens losing the right to request to be paid in silver, and have to accept these notes from the bank.
Ah there it is:
One last thing, to end my epicly huge post:
Money doesnt have any value whatsoever. It is only a means to keep everyone enslaved in manual labor, with the illusion of power and wealth, working to pay their never-ending debt, which can never be fully repaid.
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