Korea asked us for help, Vietnam asked us for help. Stop trying to twist facts to prop up your weak arguements. Americas no angel. But neither is anyone else. Get off your high horses and realize theres actual countries out there doing harm to this world. America might not always get it right but were not out to destroy it.
S. Korea is still free. Guess we were successful despite your point of view. Vietnam might not be considered a win from a political view. But strategically we dragged the Viet Cong through the mud. But thanks to anti war sentiment and a few bad apples within the military it became increasingly hard for the US Military to do its job without having politics increasingly effect the Militaries targets and its capabilitis.
Guess you werent paying attention to the first Gulf War...We kicked Iraqs military out of Kuwait which was the mission. Guess you havent payed attention to anything but the news reports about Iraq in the recent war. The insurgency has trickled into drops instead of the flood it was back in 2004. The Iraqi Government is now in control. And American Troops are now in support of the Iraqi Military. I was there for the official handover between US Troops in the lead to Iraqi Troops. Its not perfection but anyone expecting it are just fools. And anyone who doesnt have the full picture are lying to themselves about whats going on.
Funny you say America should sit back. Everytime America sits back it gets its ass chewed by the World for not getting involved. But when America does get involved those same Countries bitches about it doing the opposite. Guess you can never please those looking for something to be angry about.
Blaming Americans as a whole for the actions of the VERY few is not legitimizing your arguement only proving how your twisting reality into this very flawed arguement.
Teaching the muslims not to accept extremism? You obviously dont know any Muslims. Extremists are less then 1% of the total Muslim population. That means they dont accept them or believe what they believe. The reality is they fear them. Just like people fear Gangsters. The Gangsters might not outnumber the people they terrorize. But the extent they are willing to go to strikes fear in the hearts of the majority. Wake up and realize that most Muslims believe in peace. "Teaching" them will only push the majority to look to those extremists to get rid of the Infidels looking to brainwash the Muslim population.
Wheres this Christian Army? because the last I checked Muslims are members of our Military and have fought alongside of "Christians" in Iraq and Afghanistan. Still manipulating the truth.
Yes the old age America had this coming arguement. Should of expected this one.
1st. American/Chinese/British/French/German etc etc Citizens were in the WTC's when those planes came barrelling down. So in reality Al Qaeda declared war on the World not just America. They targeted (purposely aiming to inflict harm on people not involved or related to any physical conflict...A big difference from Civilians being killed during fighting between American Troops and Insurgents { who just happen to use the civilians as shields and to blend in with}) Civilians. How that can be twisted to be okay when people criticize American Troops when Civilians die accidently is beyond me. But I guess the reality is America is bigger and more powerful so they should ALWAYS be the bad guy no matter who they face.
2nd. The Taliban werent even considered a Soviergn Government before 9/11. Funny how people seem to forget that, only 8 short years after all of this went down. But I guess the reality is people will believe what they want and remember what they want when they want their view to be heard. The Taliban were commiting atrocities against mankind. Hacking fingers/hands/ and heads off for the most minor of crimes. Including women showing their faces in public. But go ahead and defend these monsters. It shows how you really dont give a shit about the greater good, but only flinging as much mud as you can.
3rd. Al Qaeda are no freedom fighters nor is the Taliban. The idea behind Freedom Fighting is that those doing the fighting are looking to bring Freedom to an oppressed group. Considering how both groups treat people when they are incontrol. They are in no fashion fighting to free their people of any oppression. Only looking to further oppress them through extreme views on a religion that preaches peace.
Guess your question about what America deserves falls apart when you finally take a good look at why Al Qaeda are out to topple America. They feel responsible for the down fall of Russia (even if its not the complete story) and its given them an ego. And on the flipside, they are as oppressive as the Taliban in their views of their religion. And only wish to spread their views to the rest of the world through terror.
If you didnt hate the US you wouldnt manipulate whats happened and try to create this image that America (the people of America not its Government) deserve the terrorism that threaten it everyday.
Im as big a critic of my country as anyone else. I dont think your truely a Patriot until you can see both the good and the bad your country has done and continues to do. And I will fully admit Americas shortcomings when someone legitimately brings it up. But only when its not twisted and manipulated beyond what it is. Before WW1 yes America wasnt a boyscout but in the last 100 years America has come a long way. And while its still making mistakes. Its in no way the America the world came to know in its first 100 years of existance.
America regularly holds its hands out to those who we know will turn around and stab us in that hand once they are back on their feet. Which to me is Americas biggest flaw. We try to help all too often knowing we wont be helped in return. You can all bitch and moan and cry about why America is the big bad wolf. But in reality, America is no different then any other country in this World. And is no wheres near the bad guy its made out to be. All the arguements people are making can be made about 99% of the countries of this planet. Only reason America is taking the flak right now is because its on top. Always easier to point the finger at the guy on top then to admit your own countries short comings and realize that America is only doing what everyone else is doing. Looking out for itself for the most part.
Thats the way the World is. Every man for himself. Even when theres a crisis like the earthquake in Haiti. While individuals feel for Haiti. The Governments themselves are grasping for cool points.