Home | Recent Posts New Topic
joebobmcgee
joebobmcgee
Join Date 05/2008
0

Curious about GalCiv history...

March 5, 2009 11:32:14 PM from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums

Hello.  I've played GalCiv II off and on for a while now.  I used to play this game years back on the Amiga called Colonial Conquest 2.  The game is strikingly similar in some ways to GalCiv.  Anyone know if that game is an ancient predecessor to GalCiv?  Just curious.

Thanks,
-Daniel

Locked Post
Search this post
Advanced Search
Subscription Options
Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
joebobmcgee
CmdoColin
Join Date 02/2009
+1
Reply #1 March 7, 2009 8:35:29 AM
from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums

There's some stuff on the Apolyton site: http://galciv2.net/4/166/293

But I'd recommend http://tgnforums.stardock.com/?aid=88762

As for Colonial Conquest, never played it, google it, and could only see Colonial Conquest 1 which was '85.  So maybe it did factor into the design process of the OS/2 version of Gal Civ?

Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
joebobmcgee
Londo_Mollari
Join Date 02/2009
0
Reply #2 March 7, 2009 6:44:31 PM
from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums

GalCiv story also reminds me a lot of Babylon 5 storyline. In Bab5 you had the First ones, of which the Vorlons took care of younger races (good) and the Shadows used them for evil. I the end they both manipulated the younger races and they rebelled led by, guess who, humans who formed a coallition.

Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
joebobmcgee
RangerSG
Join Date 03/2008
0
Reply #3 March 10, 2009 9:58:10 PM
from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

I do think the Gal Civ story is influenced by B5. But then, I love B5 and even occasionally played in MOO2 as "John Sheridan." (Actually did that in Alpha Centauri too, w/ "Rangers" as a custom faction ). Though to be fair, in B5 it was not nearly as simple as "humans" leading the coalition against the First Ones. Though B5 was a human station and the Rangers were Minbari and humans working together.

Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
joebobmcgee
Lusain
Join Date 03/2009
0
Reply #4 March 15, 2009 12:41:13 PM
from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums

Hehe I created the Shadows and the Vorlon as two seperate races, and I find you can do a pretty good job of Vorlon and Shadow-ish ships using the Yor Collective ship designs.

Funnily enough, I'm currently playing a game as the Shadows and on the other side of my galaxy, the Vorlon have been very busy becoming the absolutely dominant race in the galaxy and I'm now squaring off with them one on one, using all the smaller races remaining as pawns in our chess match.

Almost like it was planned! Hehe.

Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
joebobmcgee
Silphius
Join Date 01/2008
+33
Reply #5 March 15, 2009 3:56:18 PM
from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums

So what you guys are saying is that GalCiv has always been here?

Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
joebobmcgee
Raknor
Join Date 04/2007
+11
Reply #6 March 15, 2009 4:09:39 PM
from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums

Yes.

Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
joebobmcgee
Sole Soul
Join Date 12/2007
+124
Reply #7 March 15, 2009 5:00:06 PM
from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums

Quoting Silphius,
reply 5
So what you guys are saying is that GalCiv has always been here?

It's true.  Galactic Civilizations created the universe.

Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
joebobmcgee
Silphius
Join Date 01/2008
+33
Reply #8 March 15, 2009 5:21:04 PM
from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums

I was making a perhaps obscure reference to something a certain Vorlon once said

Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
joebobmcgee
Zyxpsilon
Join Date 02/2006
+80
Reply #9 March 16, 2009 10:32:41 PM
from GalCiv II ForumsGalCiv II Forums

MOO1 started it all, end of story.

But more seriously, there is indeed a pattern in how the entire RTS4X pool of games flooded the hardcore gamers market; someone out there figured out that the multiple concepts or gameplay contexts had clear potential.

Remember Doom? How many other developpers went down the FPS road to grab a slice of that pie since? CounterStrike or Crysis being just two from a list of many more, recent enough.

And yet, Doom wasn't there first!

So that tells you about GalCiv and if it can actually be matched with other titles throughout its own History.

Plagiarizing is a different issue; but i don't see any particular difference between WoW & Demigod as it pertains to 'situational features', between MoM & Elemental as 'fantasy context', between Chess & Risk & Civilization as being complex or simplistic 'board games', and so on.

It's just that GC2 has a knack for Sci-Fi & space conquest that nobody had ever done in such a sweet & slick manner - differently than others of the same kind.

 

(PS; CmdoColin, many thks for the links -- it sure brought back memories when i was an early member of Apolyton back in Nov'00!)

Reason for Karma (Optional)
Successfully updated karma reason!
Stardock Forums v        Server Load Time:   Page Render Time: