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Behold the 8800GT

October 29, 2007 10:04:04 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire ForumsSins of a Solar Empire Forums
The 8800GT 512MB card was released today, is anyone else getting one?

It pretty much beats anything under a 8800GTX, at the low cost of only $249.99

Infact , it actually runs as fast as a 8800GTX as long as you keep the resolution below 1600x1200, after that it on average is 8-12% slower than a GTX.

Its been compared to the price : value ratio of such great cards as the Ti4200 and the GeForce 7800GT

AnAndTech Review

Check out the 14 page anandtech review, it was amazing

I sold my 8800GTS 640 after a month of ownership and issues, and just ordered a 8800GT
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Reply #1 October 29, 2007 10:23:55 AM
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Hrm... I'm going to stick with my GTX (Edit: The GTX I shouldn't have bought and really regret getting card, that is )
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Reply #2 October 29, 2007 10:33:40 AM
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BUT BUT, when you enable AA and AT its getting beaten so bad


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Reply #3 October 29, 2007 10:34:40 AM
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Meh...GTX

ALSO learn to read... I said:

Infact , it actually runs as fast as a 8800GTX as long as you keep the resolution below 1600x1200, after that it on average is 8-12% slower than a GTX.
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Reply #4 October 29, 2007 10:47:42 AM
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Hrm... I'm going to stick with my GTX (Edit: The GTX I shouldn't have bought and really regret getting card, that is )


Why regret? It's an awesome card Though really until this summer/fall there were few games that actually needed it. But I wouldn't try playing WiC/Crysis without it.. Crysis especially

On that note, Multi, did the guys who ran those tests post what other settings in Crysis they used? At 1600x1200 and 4xAA/16xAF I don't get ~30 FPS with everything else on high.. Could well be they have the final engine build too, but I would assume the SP demo would as well snice the game's out in a little over 2 weeks.
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Reply #5 October 29, 2007 10:48:34 AM
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what i read from your post was
8800GT bla bla 8-12% slower than a GTX bla bla



But one thing im amazed about is that you can get 2 GT for the price of one GTX
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Reply #6 October 29, 2007 10:53:42 AM
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yeah, Nvidia really outdid themselves, just imagine what the 9800 cards will do

oh man... I need new pants now
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Reply #7 October 29, 2007 11:02:20 AM
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On that note, Multi, did the guys who ran those tests post what other settings in Crysis they used? At 1600x1200 and 4xAA/16xAF I don't get ~30 FPS with everything else on high

nope, but they did other tests without the AA/AT.
30FPS might change from GTX to GTX as there are OC versions, i for one got a OC2 from BFG that runs at 621/2000 and ill have to test the difference of the 2 drivers 163,75 and 169,01.

yeah, Nvidia really outdid themselves, just imagine what the 9800 cards will do

yeah, that one will prolly be announced when ATI gets ready to announce a new one...

edit:

heres some info about the 9800GTX/GTS

- 65nm process technology at TSMC.
- Over one billion transistors.
- Second Generation Unified Shader Architecture.
- Double precsion support (FP64).
- GPGPU native.
- Over one TeraFLOPS of shader processing power.
- MADD+ADD configuration for the shader untis (2+1 FLOPS=3 FLOPS per ALU)
- Fully Scalar design.
- 512-bit memory interface.
- 1024MB GDDR4 graphics memory.
- DirectX 10.1 support.
- OpenGL 3.0 Support.
- eDRAM die for "FREE 4xAA".
- built in Audio Chip.
- built in tesselation unit (in the graphics core"
- Improved AA and AF quality levels

The card will cost:
-The 9800GTX for 549$>649$
-The 9800GTS for 399$>449$


GeForce 9800 GTX will be over two times faster than a GeForce 8800 Ultra in real world games and applcations. There will be an cheaper, less faster 9800 GTS also releasing November.


taken from here
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Reply #8 October 29, 2007 11:32:39 AM
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From what I've seen, at 'realistic' resolutions (those not restricted to people who can afford 24"+ monitors), the GT beats the GTS in most situations, owing largely to its greater number of shaders and high clock rates. It's only at the very highest resolutions that the narrower memory bus comes into play. Looks like this'll be the card that brings DX10 to everyone else who's been waiting for a decent deal. Much as I prefer ATI historically, I doubt they'll pull out much improvement from the x2950.
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Reply #9 October 29, 2007 11:51:49 AM
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x2950 doesn't exist anymore, its called the HD38XX something... meh... ATI
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Reply #10 October 29, 2007 11:55:01 AM
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Historically I've used ATI cards... they were always pretty comparable to Nvidia, but what can I say, Nvidia pulled out ahead
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Reply #11 October 29, 2007 9:46:56 PM
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Why regret? It's an awesome card


$$$$$$$$$

Historically I've used ATI cards... they were always pretty comparable to Nvidia, but what can I say, Nvidia pulled out ahead


Well, they were significantly better than Nvidia in the last generation -- HDR + AA, and better shader power made them nice on shader-heavy games.
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Reply #12 October 29, 2007 10:24:37 PM
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Well, they were significantly better than Nvidia in the last generation -- HDR + AA, and better shader power made them nice on shader-heavy games.


More importantly, drivers that actually work properly. But when the other guys have such a brutal hardware advantage, it doesn't mean so much.
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Reply #13 October 29, 2007 10:58:54 PM
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More importantly, drivers that actually work properly. But when the other guys have such a brutal hardware advantage, it doesn't mean so much.


LOL, that too. And, on top of that, the third party control panel is much better too -- I really miss my ATI Tray Tools, but alas it won't work with my GTX.
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Reply #14 October 31, 2007 1:24:18 AM
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Still waiting for dx10.1.

I don't want a card that will be obsolete even faster than usual.
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Reply #15 October 31, 2007 1:39:42 AM
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Still waiting for dx10.1.

I don't want a card that will be obsolete even faster than usual.


HD3800, from what I hear
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Reply #16 October 31, 2007 5:32:17 AM
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HD3800, from what I hear


ATI is for jerks. I will never support them and their crazy product naming schemes, nVidia's weird "midrange" 8800GT name withstanding.

/crosses arms
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Reply #17 October 31, 2007 9:05:13 AM
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Still waiting for dx10.1.

I don't want a card that will be obsolete even faster than usual.


The talk that DX10 cards wouldn't be able to handle 10.1 games was mostly rumor. For the most part, 10.1 makes mandatory some things that were optional before, but the upper-range cards already did anyway.
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Reply #18 October 31, 2007 12:22:42 PM
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The talk that DX10 cards wouldn't be able to handle 10.1 games was mostly rumor. For the most part, 10.1 makes mandatory some things that were optional before, but the upper-range cards already did anyway.


Little more info

Basically, yeah, 10.1 won't make anything 'obsolete'. I think people are just reading that current DX10 cards won't be forward compatible and panic.
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