Ron, it was their stated intent Not to define it in exact terms BECAUSE of the culrual shift that they knew was going to occur. They stated clearly that it is a living document, to be revisited by each generation. They also did not expect it to last as long as it has. This is clear in their personnal and public writings.

Yes there was really no terrorists from the 9-11 attacks, they were from Afganistan and Egypt. I am going to just come out say that I don't think 9-11 was really much of a disaster. 2 things happened, 2 stupid ass buildings that I hate burned down, and 4,000 people died. We have been pointing our fingers at this acting like it's an excuse to force our form of goverment that we love way too much on people in the midddle east. I don't treat 9-11 like a disaster on the magnitude that some people do because with exeption to the firefighters there were no actual heros dying that day, just a bunch of walstreet stock brokers, the reason I fail to care is because just for reference millions of Jews, Arabs, and Africans have been brutaly slaughtered yet they recieve not even a fraction of the attention, they have become mostly the statistics of a body count for something that we apparently don't care about.
The media is biased and I don't think most people here are too stupid to know that there's corruption but you're not going to be able to turn on the TV and ever hear about what the US is doing as a nation that is killing us all. The US is using what it can to make shure the world isn't taken over by China. And if that means that we are going to spend millions(I think it may have been hundreds of millions or something) on an embasy of immense size in Iraq so that our goverment can make it an appendage of the West then you know what, they are. If it means starting the AFRICOM project to take over Nigeria and secure the oil for the US and try and take Africa from China and India well then so be it, Nigeria is probably the most beutiful country in Africa and it is literaly turning into a wasteland, the natives aren't benefiting from their oil we are, what I think is the true terrorism is exactly what the US has done but isn't being told to us on the media.
Oh and don't worry I'm not some really old black guy or an Asian or an Arab, my family is actually from Germany yet What the US has done primarily in the last 8 years has made me loose so much faith that I asociate myself more with the Communists in China. Why? Becuase I'm just trying to pick the least bad, plus if I could vote for a Communist mayor in my town (and I can't) and loose just a couple rights in exchange for him running over that damn Burger king in a tank I'd consider it a bargain

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yeah. I really hope you're kidding.

extenuous circumstances have kept me from getting on, I hope to do so soon.

it is a peaceful religion, its the extremists who are the issue


dont judge the barrel by its worst apples.

but the same thing goes for christianity.

Again... we're trying to change the middle east. nearly all the countries that boarder Iraq are terrorist sponsor states. Iraq was not though it wasn't making the situation any better either.


Currently Iraq is serving as lightning rod for most of the terrorists. They attack there as opposed to elsewhere. A large part of our intention was to show the people in the middle east what democracy can do for their society.


These things take time... and it's not easy with Iran and several other countries doing everything they can to kill it.


As to the tribes that needs to be broken down. They need to become like the turks... one tribe.


Everyone in the US 18 years or older who isn't a felon can vote... I think about 10 to 30 percent of the eligible population votes.


As to our media, it's less biased then many official sources in europe. I find often that people that make that claim base their judgment on how it differs from their own media assuming that their own media is not biased.

The solution is to take in many different sources. I've never seen any new source that isn't biased in some way. The trick is figuring out that bias and then complimenting it with other sources that don't share that bias.

Yes I have been outside the USA. And no it is not totally a joke; I am referring to the "culture" of Islam, not the people. People who are Muslims are not my enemy, they are victims of the enemy, and the enemy is Islam itself. Unlike other religions that have been abused by so called followers, Islam flat out states that you should kill no believers and you will go to heaven for killing them. I have known hundreds of people who are Muslims and not one of them have said I am incorrect about killing non believers. The current form of Islam being taught is a direct take from the Imam of Palestine in 1947 who spent WWII as the guest of Hitler in Germany. When he returned to Palestine after the war he brought with him many Nazis to help him kick out the British and when the UN set up Palestine and Israel he was the one who called for the extermination of Israel.

Islam is not now nor has it ever been a "peaceful" religion. It advocates tolerance only until you have enough people to over through the existing civil structure and then you exterminate those who refuse to convert.
It needs to be exterminated the same way we exterminated the European version of Nazism! Take out the supporting governmental structure, destroy its public symbols and disrupt its ability to engage in armed struggle.

I have never been to China but one of my employees is from Shanghai and she shares with me many stories of life back there, both good and bad. Also about 25 years ago a girl I dated, her father was a mid level member of the Communist party. I have also worked with the consulate office of a few different countries over the years assisting with housing for consulate officers and such. I am aware and enjoy the diversity of cultures that I have been exposed to over the course of my life. That is how I am so aware of how inferior the culture of Islam is. Not from ignorance by living in fungusfoot Kansas, but from my expocher to many cultures.

Go read the Quran and learn what it really is all about! after you read the whole thing in context (not just little snippets, I could do that here but it would prove nothing) then try and say it is a faith of peace!

here is the link to start
WWW Link

Oh and just so you know, if I ever caught someon harrasing someone because they were a muslim I would be first in line to kick their butt, even if I knew I would lose. I will not tollorate that from anyone just because they think diffently than I do, people are allowed to be wrong, all I can do is show them what is right and let them take action acordingly, or conversly show me my error so that I can correct mine.

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It also explicitly states that other "children of the book" (various translations, and I may be mis-remembering the exact term) are completely off-limits. Radical Islamics just ignore that because it doesn't fit their desires. They twist their religion just as much as Fundamentalist Christians twist theirs.



Well, beware... because I happen to feel the same way about people picking on people just because their Islamic (or black, white, native american, christian jewish mulsim Toaist Buddhist... take your pick, the list goes on). And I seriously cannot believe that you have the religion itself on your hate list. The culture that has spawned around it, sure. The religion, no.

spoken like a true non-christian

yes, Christianity denies all other religions (duh, all religions deny all other religions)

however it does not damn anyone to hell for that, it damns you to hell for not being a nice guy. you might be mixing it with judaism, which denies entrance to heaven if you're a heathen.

and what would that be...

one pope does not a religion make

pope john the second (or something something something) said you would go to hell for masturbating, that view didnt hold very long (for obvious reasons)

F-I-R-E
no bomb.

we dont like them.

a... plane, crashed into it.

The building was made of steel, and I dont care what the government says I am going with the experts on this one and saying 2,000 degree fires arent about to melt steel.



We did like them then, relations were only about to become strained. I am talking early 2001 here.

And why did Dick Cheney post a report 2 years earlier saying that "To remodernize the military and bring about a second golden age for America something of the magnitude of Pearl Harbor had to happen to the US again.



Barely any plane wreckage and no official video tapes of the crash. Hm... I'm a bit skeptical.

Nope, it was 2,000 degrees at the very minimum, and seeing as there is less oxygen at that altitude it would burn at around 2,000. Not to metion that the fire was clearly not burning efficiently, hence the huge clouds of smoke.

And besides, even if the mesh failed the core was made out of reinforce concrete and would have withstood both fires and the stress from the melting mesh.



Really? They cleared the area in what 90 mins? Wow there must of been a lot of plane wreckedge

Oh, yes of course to cover up something



Oh, heavens no, i am not an insane conspiracy theorist. I was just suggesting that there is a lot more to the entire thing. Either that or Cheney has psychic powers...

The fire was still burning very inefficiently. The density of air arround the fire would be reduced because the fire would create great suction and burn up air too fast. Therefore not burning efficiently.



Yes, but the government says that the building collapsed because the meshing that supported the floors melted so much it caved in and caused to much stress on the core witch them buckeled downwards.



Wouldnt a not planned terrorist action, a more senseless act of violance inspire more anger in people. Enough to say start a war?

Are you kidding me? There isnt solid proof for either side. There are experts on engineering and aeronautics that support both sides, effectually putting the whole thing in doubt.