Yes, I have never used space marines before, so this will be a new experience for me.

I never really saw space marine ships like that before... I just took it for granted that their 6+ armour would make them close to indestructable...... But yes, now i realise..... those lances are going to tear me up. Thanks for the heads up, I know what to do now I will probably send all 4 SC's in as the vanguard group, and keep my battlebarge and the squadron of Novas together (the lances on the novas should provide adequete cover for my BB's rear, and the BB's cannons and weapons batteries should deter anything coming from the front and sides. The squadron of Gladius' will go ahead with the SC's, and the whole group will try and get behind the enemy, and cause as many criticals as possible, then my battlebarge will finish them.

WRT the Solar Admiral; I got him because it would be a luxury to have Ld 11 with an ordanance heavy fleet like this, especially with my emperor. I will never fail a check which will gurantee a constant stream of AC. I also dont have any cobras, although I would love some, they dont sell them anymore on the online store =[ Also, what you said about keeping my carriers with my punch line; Is it really wise to keep them in the mayhem of close combat? I rekon the carriers would better serve me off and out of the brawl, where they could remain in relative safety and the Mars could put its Nova Cannon to full use. The emperor could also put its long range guns to use too. The falchions will probably join the punch, because if the punch force is big enough, my opponant will be too disctracted by it, and will hopefully not concerntrait his forces on my carriers. If the opposite happens, ill just race my two carriers in with the punch force, and keep them together.

And, WRT college, Good luck to you man, I get Universities and TAFE down here in Western Australia, so I dont know what college will be like. All i can say is good luck.

TAFE is like tertiary school in Australia, but it doesn't require as high a entry standards as University. Thats about as much as I know about it

And yes, thanks for the idea for sharks. I always forget about them with the emperor. Thats what I can spend the last five points on thanks!

Also, seeing as I have Falchions in there, thus making it an Armageddon list, do you think it would be worth it to invest in some strike cruisers or space marine escorts in there? In order to do so, I would have to sacrafice one of the cruisers and some escorts. So which is it? Trade firepower for mobility (and some T/Hawks ^^) or keep the firepower, and hope I wont need mobility?

Also, on the MOD: It must be pretty hard to organise a MOD with people from different timezones. Sympathies

I FINALLY!!! got done reading the entire post. I think space marines should be a part of the IN, but be part of the second expansion of the mod. Those are really freakin' awesome dark eldar...skeletons? I'm technical idiot when it comes to that stuff. Those are some nice Chaos buildings. My complements to Inert. And Manuel. And Xthetenth. And periods. I have something figured out about the IN too.
The weapons are standardized almost, like 1 WB part equals str. 6 WB, and 1 lance turret equals 1 lance. And one Launch bay equals 2 squadrons. On a escort through cruiser, it is usually 30 cm, Battlecruiser is 45 cm, and battleship is 60 cm. Anyway, you can totally disregard the last few sentences as the babblings of a raving lunatic wearing a sign on his neck saying "THE LANCE IS NEAR", and reccomend you do. Caffeine is the likely culprit. I just had a thought. With that halo mod coming out, who would win in planetary assault, Space Marines, or Master Chief and the ODSTs. I see no reason to change resources either, it just seems like more work on your part. It would be kinda easy fighting against the Vanilla races on Superhard, hovever. Them having no starting resources, and beaten by a handful of Coba I mean Cobra's and an Akkan with nothing to do but watch as the drop pods filled with Guardsmen come raining down upon their planet, swiftly purging the heretics out of existance. That was creepy.

Then again, he is only one man. Space Marines number in their millions, across hundreds of chapters. But if you gave the MC some steroids.... well, thats a whole new ball game.

except that space marines have two of every organ except for the brain, they have armor twice the size of a human, and they are equipped with the most technologically advanced weaponry in the Universe, not to mention there are probably more space marines in 40k than ODST's. Theres alot of chapters.

the covenant is far inferior to the space marines imo, the space marine bolter is the equivalent of a 50. caliber machine gun, and can fire twice as fast. a force commander alone could kill the chief, you want to get hit with that gigantic a$$ hammer? jesus.

then i shall bring up the fact that the chief has actually never faced anything like them before, i dont think the Space Marines would be the defender of the galaxy if they sucked like you're all saying. Huge, fast, armored, 50. caliber machine gun pistols, rockets, plasma guns, flamethrowers, enormous hammers similar to the gravity hammer, the best tacticians in the galaxy. i'd say the chief is a little better than one marine, but the marines have all the implants and training he has, but more.

I'm with chang here, bolters are much more like fully automatic snub-nosed 20mm autocannons... nasty business. Also, even before a space marine puts his armor on, he's got his ribcage which is more of a rib wall of reinforced steel after all the enhancments, heals in a matter of seconds so even a gruesome wound may not be fatal, and for the sheer lulz of it can spit acid in many cases. If anybody knows about it, White Dwarf made a "movie space marine" list that reflects the books and stuff where the marines really show how awesome they are. IIRC, you can get a good 5-6 tooled up marines into a 2000 point game. If anybody can get me that, that'd be awesome, I'd love to see it in its full glory.

Finally, Master Chief'd get toasted by a good librarian, especially a blood angels one with their special psychic powers (not sure the rules to make him survived in the web codex, but oh well). Force weapon: check. Up to eight attacks with said force weapon (psychic power that gives +D3 attacks): check. Ability to re-roll nearly any of his rolls (the time control power, forget what it's called, lets you re-roll your hit, attack rolls and your armor saves): check. 265 points of killy doom that I don't see master chief stopping. If you get compared to a guy with knowledge of everything you'll do before you do, you'll lose.

*Nods head* It will be a first in the BFG community too, they have all been waiting for a digital Gothic for a LONG time. Not only will this mod make the BFG community wet their pants, but EVERYONE who plays BFG and wants a computer game of it as well will go out and buy Sins if they already havnt. Ive already got a mexican wave going on over there.......

lol there are no instructions most of the time for BFG models. I know from my Cruisers and Retribution (which i messed up on, the fins in the back are on the wrong sides).

What you really have to do is look at a picture and guess.



So I'll bug Kiernyc more about getting that damned picture (his whole family has this horrible disease called UBARLAZYNESS). His fleet has gotten really big but mine has stayed the same. Since I had extra bits he made a conversion of a Tau Hero-class and Imperial bits (some are chaos bits but chaos ships, for the most part, are old Imperial Ships).

The reason my fleet has stayed the same is lack of monies. But I did get a pack of Cadian Soldiers and a Cadian Heavy Weapons Team (I'm still painting my BFG stuff and painting/putting together the troops). I'll see if Kiernyc will take pictures of them to.

Also when Kiernyc got more of his ships he got a free Space Marine model which looks really cool (he's painting Blood Angel).

Well I can't exactly take my Retribution apart

Besides my Retribution has a lance Battery on it so its kinda a conversion.

Best Conversion EVER! Yarrick's Fortress:

That's what I did. I just fitted everything together, pre-gluing.

@xthetenth - The Vent server for modcraft.net is there for your team as well. We do not have a room set up for you folks on it since you have never used it as a mod team. It has 100 slots and your team is as entitled to those slots just as much as the next project.

well i zoned out of this thread over the tactic talk =P i'll probbly sort out some level of access to a download site for the mod when X has it in shape and give it to the testers (dont ask we will be giving to the people who have been with us for ages)
thanks for the comments spartan and everyone else

prezo

aeons, my friend, aeons.

The testing version is going well, but keep in mind that it's going to be a gameplay test, not a shiny happy mod quite yet, so I'm still proxying battleships with akkans (best emitter setup) and escorts with whatever fits (I'm using the equivalent firepower in weapons batteries till I get an escort with mulitple emitters). All multi-arc turrets are locked in the most sensible arc. For ranged ships (everything other than the slaughter, I forget where I pointed it for that ship), they're locked in the left arc. No abilities have been coded up yet, and research is still on the list after I get done. However, on the plus side, I'm almost done, which is always a good thing. Should be ready tonight if I'm not too busy (and I don't think I will be).