I'm with Prezo. I like huge variety.

Yeah, make it a seperate race if you can, and add Technologies.
You so close, so don't give up!
(Relishing the prospect of realising my Battlefleet on those Eldarly Advent!)
Is there a Download link anywhere?

Yeah, I'm here (mostly). I'll try to be online whenever I can and get in contact with you asap.

The testing version I'm working on is going well, with models, I'll be ready with a serious alpha draft soon. Once we get that up, we should have our own thread even if the IP restrictions prevent us from having an open download link.

okay, that's great to hear. I'm still playing around with a slaughter that inert gave me that pops up a ton of errors but won't crash ever, so it's fine for my purposes.

I've got convertXSI converting, but it didn't give me anything, just an empty model. Grrr... Stupid program.

I thought of something that would be cool! Maybe special abilities can be special orders from the game, like every ship starts with All Ahead Full, Burn Retros, and Lock On. Capitol Ships may provide to be a problem, though. Also, does this mod replace the current races, or merely add to them? It would be awesome seeing Emperor's Will being brought down on a Star Destroyer from the Star wars mod! You could also create an inquisition fleet? Man that would rock! I do request that you make the fleet colors more than a trim only visible on capitol ships. Maybe the craftworld eldar don't have a homeworld, but they have a craftworld that they use as a homeworld, and any planet it is present at they can build ships and resources with. Oh! They can get money instead of xp for destroying ships! *Head explodes*

edit: I would also like to join the cheerleader squad of the mod, where is registration?

Well, that sucks (about the IP stuff)! I figured you'd have something like that. Are you going to make the tyrant and Oberon and other useless ships slightly not useless? I guess it would be kinda fun to make units that suck really bad! I simply love using !!!'s!

The sad thing is nobody knows. It is just too much crap to really understand for even Steven Hawking  ! . I didn't mean oberon, I meant the battlecruiser that starts with an 'o'. I can't seem to remember what it is called. I only know that it sucks.

i like the tyrant cos its the longest range ship i have bar the dorsal lances otherwise i dont know any of the other ships but i still want all of them... changes to prices i wouldent mind that much but changes to stats i would like to steer clear of as it ceses to be bfg if the ships aint the same

My feeling on the Overlord is that the problem is it gets the same broadside as a lunar (figuring in the column shift), so 235 points for that piddling bit of firepower isn't all that useful when the lunar has to fire both broadsides just to be worth the price. It's overpriced because that weak firepower at range and the linebreaker torp prow it has both have to be paid for, but you can't use both. That need is also the problem of the Tyrant, because it has to fire both broadsides to be worth it (compare to how much firepower chaos gets for cheaper and it becomes apparent). If you get in close enough to use your broadsides (that's why you're paying for an armored prow, after all) you're probably closer than 30 cm. Therefore you paid firepower for range for nothing, but it is the only pure WB cruiser that has a torp nose, so that is one consideration.

The armageddon is a great ship, but when it came down to getting dauntlesses and dominators or armageddons, I picked the gothic sector fleet because of the daunts and dicts.

OK, here is what I can do for the mod actually. I can do concept art for buildings and such, nothing too detailed. I can do ideas for technologies and stuff. That is about it. By the way, what happened to all of those awesome pics of the skins and stuff by inert?

WRT= With Regards Too

Anyway, strike cruisers have sacraficed firepower to be able to keep up with the escorts. They also have bombardment cannons and T/Hawks and the 6+ armour which is the bane of ALL weapons batteries. It's so hard to shoot and hit them with WB's!!! Bombardment cannons are annoying little things, as they use the gunnery table like WB, but hit on a 4+ like lances. They also cause a critical on a 4+ too, which is why strike cruisers make the best cap-ship disablers and escort killers. (Escorts die on a critical hit, instantly) I say cap-ship disablers because they can start fires/take out weaponry/stuff the engines/smash the bridge with their critical hits, so by the time your REAL fleet gets there, it's easy pickings. Strike cruisers are by far my favourite ships, even with reduced firepower. I have a squadron of 5 of them, which once behind the enemy, where they cant be shot, can be the bane of many ships. especially Battleships.

"The thing about the overlord is that comparing it to chaos is valid. It has the same role as their ships, and even "fleet flavor" pales when you're trying to explain why the carnage has effectively the same firepower in that role for 55 points less. "

But thats it, Chaos is SUPPOSED to get range+firepower+speed for a cheap price tag. They are also supposed to get AC at a stupidly low price, which is why they have so much of it! I dont actually know how this is balanced out, the 6+ prows certainly dont make it even. All i know is, that to beat Chaos as the IN, its going to take luck and skill. They were naturally ment to beat the IN. So comparing IN ships to Chaos ships ISNT valid, because they will always get beaten. Comparing IN ships to IN ships, however, IS valid, because you can see the things that separate the support ships from the punch ships. The overlord has the most range for its size out of all the IN ships, which gives it the advantage of being able to support from afar. This is balanced, however, by the fact that it doesnt actually pack much of a punch, and is overpriced. But these negatives dont insta-designate this ship as useless! Players have different play styles, but in my play style, the Overlord has a place. I have one in my fleet, and in conjunction with my Vengance Grand cruiser, they can deliver a menacing punch from afar. So far, those two have never been destroyed (although occasionally crippled) in battle, mainly because of how far they sit back in comparisoon to my other ships, and have tallied a score of around ten kills. (although most of the time, these ships just finish off an already damaged enemy ship, done by my Lunars)

Ok, I'm sorry for jumping to conclusions and saying that you hate the ship. I also can't think of any other way to defend the Overlord, as I've used all my cards. The negatives seem to outweigh the posotives with that ship. So I'll just keep my opinion, and you can keep yours. I still stand by it, but i can't think of any way to justify it, so I guess you win. Lol. Now, back to the MOD, hows things coming?

Mod's going well, I'm still fussing with the test version to get everything right, and it's going okay. My sprained ankle is finally mostly okay, so my dad's dragging me around to get in a summer's worth of "recreation" jammed in to the remaining time before I get to college (HOLY GOD I ONLY HAVE 3 WEEKS LEFT!), so I'm not able to get in as much work as I'd like. I think Prezo's got some models emitterated, but I'm not sure on that because convertXSI had a cow after we forgot texturing. Prezo, I'll try to be online when you're awake to see if you've made any progress, but I make no guarantees (I had a very early morning). Still, It's going well, and I think we're going to have a very good mod when we're done.

I'm not sure on the space marines fleet one, the ships are unfamiliar to me, and so is the usage. The Battle Barge is odd, and I bet you have more idea how to use it than I do, but you might want to try linebreaking with it like you would with an IN cruiser, but instead of getting ships on both broadsides, go for the front of his fleet so you can keep most of it abeam and stay an impossible target to hurt particularly badly. This will let you get most of your firepower from it while you keep your THawks on attacks of opportunity duty and your main battle clump of strike cruisers dance in and hit any openings your thawks manage to create. Remember, lances are very dangerous to you (cuts through that armor you paid a ton for), so target enemy ships in order of descending lance power, even with your thawks so you can shut down his ability to hurt you. Finally, Strike Cruisers need to be grouped with something to really hurt an enemy cruiser badly. If you group two or even better, three, they'll be able to really slam an enemy cruiser quickly and all those crits will keep it out of the fight for a very long time. You might want to group three to do that and use the last one to kill escorts that try to flank your battlebarge or generally get too troublesome with its THawks and BC, which are all great against escorts.

The IN game, I don't really have enough familiarity with that kind of fleet to recommend much other than getting a different admiral because the solar admiral is next to useless on an Emperor (which gives +1 Ld) when you can get a reroll and a reserve cobra for your falchion squadron (they don't conflict too badly) with the points. If you keep your fleet together until you get to where you need to turn in with your punch cruisers, then you're not going to be flanked too badly. If you can hit (one of) the slaughter(s) with an Emperor sized wave of bombers, it'll help a great deal, because it'll be very likely to cripple it and give your support ships a good chance of defeating the attack before it hits. Remember the slaughters need to be more careful about closing than imperial ships because of their soft prows, so if you can prove your emperor's AC will toast them if they don't close quickly, they'll be dead either way, so it should push them into your waiting guns. That's all plan though.

Hope you salvage some good ideas from that.